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Post  Bolmeteus on Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:52 am

this is what one translator wrote:
華兵 = Chinese Soldier

this is other translator: gaudy trooper in current tr. list material.

PLEASE fully confirm/update with clear and simple english what is what and which type is used on which spirits. so i can edit my bs15 list for a first pdf-print, which all users can use then:-)

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Re: GAUDY TROOPER & CHINESE SOLDIER

Post  Bolmeteus on Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:11 pm

please dear users, please help. without this clarification, i can not make the set pdf for us:-)
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Re: GAUDY TROOPER & CHINESE SOLDIER

Post  Soaker on Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:17 pm

There is no official translation of 華兵, and the problem with kanji is that it can be read in different ways. Personally, I think Gaudy Trooper is fine, but the cards in that family are based off of soldier characters from the Chinese "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" story, so either one makes sense.

In short, it was just the same words translated differently by two different people.
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Post  Bolmeteus on Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:00 pm

Soaker wrote:There is no official translation of 華兵, and the problem with kanji is that it can be read in different ways. Personally, I think Gaudy Trooper is fine, but the cards in that family are based off of soldier characters from the Chinese "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" story, so either one makes sense.

In short, it was just the same words translated differently by two different people.

SO FOR UNOFFICIAL LIST I AM ALLOWED TO WRITE "CHINESE SODIER/GAUDY TROOPER" OK?!

then i try to upload tonight.
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Post  Smash Spirit on Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:06 pm

To offer my explanation behind "Gaudy Trooper" as my choice for 華兵 Kahei:

The 兵 "hei" comes from the word 兵士 heishi, which literally means "soldier"; "trooper" is simply another wording for it.

The 華 "ka" here is actually a fancier, more traditional form of the Japanese kanji for "flower" (花). The New Nelson's Kanji Character Dictionary I use has this character translated as "shining," "appearance," and "ostentation." In addition, the word 華やかな hanayakana which uses the same kanji is listed with meanings like "gay," "showy," "brilliant," and "gorgeous." Based on this information, I chose "gaudy" (meaning flashy and extravagant) as the best and most simple word to use in my Attribute translations.

However, true to Soaker's word, in certain kanji combinations, ka can also be used to represent the country of China.
Examples: 華北 Kahoku ("North China"), 華南 Kanan ("South China"), 華僑 Kakyou ("overseas Chinese"), 華字紙 kajishi ("Chinese newspaper")
In this respect, the translation of "Chinese Soldier" would also be more than acceptable. When I first saw the "Kahei" Attribute, I admit that I didn't see the Romance of the Three Kingdoms influence as a possible common link between almost all Kahei Attribute Spirits.


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Re: GAUDY TROOPER & CHINESE SOLDIER

Post  Bolmeteus on Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:10 pm

that is what i like in BS forum:-)

all work together and commbine the info data and welcome new addition knowledge. one reason why i decided to get more into BS:-)

thnx to amazing details dear smashspirit!!!
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